Hip hop, dual career, quit your job and go your own way with Super Smack (2023)

Super Smack is on a journey of rapping, dancing and creating music to uplift and inspire anyone who has ever felt underrepresented. He writes thoughtful lyrics that reflect his experiences and refers to his music as underdog pop.

His career has spanned everything from cybersecurity and project management to Broadway and recording and releasing hip hop albums.

Inspired by an eclectic mix of K-Pop, Outkast and Lin-Manuel Miranda, Smack has created a unique style of sound he calls "A-Pop": Asian, American, Arizonan. After releasing his debut EP "Neon Red" at SXSW in 2019, he co-headlined the CRAZY SWITCH ASIANS tour, performing in 16 cities in three weeks.

In 2021, he released his follow-up EP, "Neon Blue", while also collaborating with Phoenix rapper Mega Ran on the single "Black X Gold", which was shortlisted for Rolling Stone's Global Artist Spotlight.

After living the last 10 years in New York City, Super Smack recently moved to his hometown of Phoenix, Arizona. With her roots established in a new home, she has begun recording her first full-length album, due for release later this year.

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In this episode you will learn:

• What does Super Smack do?
• His relationship with music since childhood.
• Be the little brother and find your way
• The double career journey between the technological space and music
• Boundaries and overlaps between your two worlds.
• How to integrate different parts of your life on social media?
• Finding the right vehicle to convey your complex nature
• Super Smack's vocation to contribute to a good cause
• Music as a more unique way to make a difference
• The Super Smack Creative Process: Produce and Consume
• Closing out the first chapter of Super Smack for its debut
• Your next release and future plans
• Word of advice: either you are a planet or a spaceship!

Resources mentioned:

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Software generated transcript:

Y

Smack welcome to the Meaning Movement podcast. It's so fun to say Smack. This is going really well. I'm so happy to have you here with us.

Super soco

I chose the name because it makes people laugh.

Y

Does. It totally does. The question I like to start with is how do you start talking about the work you do?

Super soco

Yes. My name is Super Smack and I'm a dancer, rapper and pop artist. I make uplifting, upbeat music combined with really thoughtful lyrics that reflect all the different experiences I've had. And my main goal is just to inspire and bring joy to people, especially those who have felt underrepresented at some point in their lives. And yes, I guess you could call it underdog pop.

Y

underdog pop. I love that. It's a great genre. Tell me about your relationship with music. Has it always been like this, have you always been a musician? Has it always been part of your identity?

Super soco

Yes. So music has always been a part of my identity, for sure. So my family is just one big musical family. We are Filipinos. My parents were born in Manila, Philippines, and then immigrated here in the late 80's. And then I was born here in the US, me and my sister, who was also a guest on her podcast.

Y

Sim.

Super soco

And we were both born here in Phoenix, Arizona, actually, where I live now. Just got back. And growing up, we listened to a lot of music. My parents were big fans of Broadway, the musical theater. So I didn't actually listen to my first pop record, like my first pop song, except maybe a few fleeting things on the radio until I was ten, eleven or twelve when I was a kid when we were on long trips like driving, see my cousins ​​in California or something. The whole trip would be as boring as Rob's Broadway greatest hits compilation CD. So for me, that was booming music.

Y

Sim.

Super soco

I was also a singer and dancer since I was a little girl. So it was like my musical world was the Broadway song my parents played in the car, whatever song my dance teachers chose for me to dance to, I could be like Elvis or Little Richard, probably something like really old. as timely as this or the song that was on my favorite tv shows. So I was a huge Power Rangers fan. So it's like heavy metal, but heavy metal for kids. That was my musical world from one to ten years.

Y

I love it. I love it. Well, you mentioned that your sister is going to make sure you connect to that interview I did with her. And she chose Broadway or dance as her career and pursued several, I think, parallel careers along the way. And I'm curious about you, I don't know, maybe even because this podcast is all about family, I think a little bit. People might know something of your history. What was it like for you to see her pursue this on a professional level? And at what point did you decide to be professional or not? How have you navigated some of these transitional times in your life?

Super soco

Yes, that's a very good question. So, historically, my sister has always been the pioneer. She is the oldest and the youngest. It's just the two of us. So she always had her first chance, her first chance in college, her first chance to establish a career for herself in the real world.

Y

Sim.

Super soco

I think we both like to joke that one of the areas where I got the first break was that I was the first person to walk away from my career, which I think we've both done at least once or twice by now. But I have initial opinions about it. So I have to be the Canaries and the coal mine for that.

Y

Yes, exact.

Super soco

When I was in school, I studied international relations in computer science. And what I wanted was to be a super spy. He wanted to be, maybe not like James Bond, but like the guy at the computer with the James Bond headphones. I wanted to be that guy.

Y

Sim.

Super soco

And I've gone down that path, not as a spy, but I've worked in the federal and civic technology space, and I've worked for government contracts, I've worked for nonprofits, I've worked for private companies in and around the information technology and security space. And my early years out of college, that's the career path I was pursuing. And all this singing and dancing and stuff that I've been doing as a hobby growing up, I just have to let go. And around 2015, 2016, I got this error in my head that I was probably spending too much time with my sister, who is a very successful actress on Broadway. And I thought, hey, I think I can do some of this. And I really wanted to test, test my skills. So in 2016 I left Tech. I was a product manager and I quit. And I decided that I wanted to try my hand at musical theater professionally. So I did that for a few years. And then, as I got more immersed and got back in touch with my artistic side, I discovered songwriting.

Super soco

I hadn't really been a songwriter in any real sense before that, but being around singing and dancing and making music, I found that there was actually so much more to it than just acting and performing a script that someone else had written or a song that someone else had written. person had written, had written. I loved writing my own words. And I found that I had a lot to say. And so, I decided to pursue this kind of dual career path, where I wanted to write and produce my own work. To do this, I need money and resources. So I got back into technology in 2018 and I work full time for a nonprofit and then a healthcare company and I came back to that career full time. And so in all my free time, I don't know where my personal life went, but all my free time was doing this moonshine job as a music creator. And very recently, just to tie the whole timeline together, I decided that I was going to take a break from my previous work to have a little bit of space and reevaluate where I was and what I wanted to do and what kind of work would personally satisfy me.

Super soco

And that was a few months ago, and I enjoyed that time. And during that kind of gestation period, I realized and decided that I wanted to pursue music full time, just running in that direction and seeing where it took me and who knows what might happen next. But I'm really excited. Here we lean a lot on that, and here we are today.

Y

I love it. It is so perfect. I always love having guests on the podcast who are on it all the time. Those moments of transition. And that's often the reason people play on this podcast because they're thinking about a transition. They're thinking about these ideas of meaning and purpose and what they're doing with their lives and their work. And it's so fun to see your trajectory and see that you really go after it here and see where it comes from. Hopefully this podcast ages well. But if not, that's okay too, because it's all part of the process, right?

Super soco

I think it will. It's graceful. I think we were talking a few months ago. I was also preparing to move. I just moved from NYC to Phoenix and I thought, can we talk in a few months? In fact, I think I'm really busy right now. And I also think I'll be able to tell a better story about it because I'm still figuring things out.

Y

Completely. It's graceful. I get this a lot from potential guests. Like, yeah, I don't know.

Super soco

I really don't have it all figured out yet.

Y

Let's go back in a circle. But part of the nature of it is that there isn't an answer and we're all always in the process. So we find a thread, you pull that thread and see where it goes or whatever analogy you want to use. Take that road until it takes you to another fork and you say, okay, where is this taking me? Which is just wild and great. Glad you went out and chased him. I want to know what you think about having a dual career. I think it's always an important piece in a lot of artists' journeys, like giving yourself a steady income to support your art and giving yourself that space to really create your art, that you just transition from that space. But there can also be feelings of shame or embarrassment in one form or another. Like you don't want those two worlds to overlap. I'm curious to hear you talk a little bit about what that season was like for you to have these two different parallel paths. How much do they overlap? How much did he talk about one to his workmates and associates in the other world?

Super soco

Right.

Y

Sim.

Super soco

The Double Race There have been times in my life when everything was a race, every other race. Dual race a mix. And a dual career can be very rewarding and a lot of fun. It's also really challenging. And I think everyone will have their own and discover their own secret sauce formula. Right. And that too has changed over time. It changed for me, and it made sense from what I described above, of wanting to have the space and resources to produce my own work. What came with that was a lot of tiredness, mental exhaustion, like having to switch my brain between these two very different worlds. Right.

Y

Sim.

Super soco

Having to change the code for the way I speak in these different environments can be very tiring because people use different terminologies. People communicate in different ways.

Y

Even when you started talking about your tech background, your voice dropped from very energetic and happy to very direct. And it was very interesting, something I noticed. And it's interesting that you mentioned that, like, I could see when you're especially into government tech stuff, like really serious and really dry stuff.

Super soco

Very.

Y

Yes. But that's not necessarily who you are. Perhaps a more natural habitat.

Super soco

Yes. I think I consider both to be my natural habitat. It's just a different era, I guess. But the problem with dual careers is that I think some people find a way to merge their worlds together and build on each other. And I've been able to do that with some parts and some worlds and some skills really translate well, like project management. If you are an independent artist, you are also an entrepreneur. Not only are you singing and recording and writing songs, but you're also doing your own promotion, managing your own project, hiring freelancers, hiring people to join your team. I'm sure this is something you can probably understand or identify with.

Y

Yes absolutely.

Super soco

So just being able to manage the complexity and see the big picture is like a skill that translates. Other than that, I tended to keep my world pretty. I'm a huge superhero fan, so I was very much Clark Kent Superman. I just have a wall between these things. To protect every sacred space. And yes, I mean, there were definitely people who knew my work on both. It's graceful. Now, I've recently started to share a lot more than just my music production. Like, here's my new music, but just, like, the process of how I create this stuff. I started basically keeping a public diary of, like, this is my life. And I share it on my Instagram story. And many people began to do this in the new year. And a lot of people that I haven't heard from in years that just stayed connected or followed me or whatever it was that reached out to me. And I was talking to an engineer who is my old co-worker. Like, many, many years ago, we hadn't talked in a long time and we ended up in this long conversation about pursuing a passion and finding that balance between hobbies and work.

Super soco

And how do you know when you want to turn a hobby into a profession or leave it as a hobby? And it's great. I'm realizing that there are so many people in my old circle, my day-old jobs, who are very curious and really fascinated by this. What's it like to do something perhaps a little unorthodox and talk to someone who has lived in both worlds? They seem to be very curious about it.

Y

Yes I love. I love it. I'm curious about that. It's a selfish question because it's something I have a lot of irons in the fire about. I do many things. In addition to the podcast, I have a software company that manages these worlds. I'm always actively working to integrate and bring these things together. But especially, how on social media and how you appear on social media, usually just likes by default, it's very complicated. I'm not in the mood to deal with it. But I'm curious about you. How do you get from the metaphorical phone booth, Superman Super Smack Suit to these engineers or whatever? And if you have feelings about letting them see that side of you, or it's more like, yeah, I'm comfortable in both places and now I'm not doing the engineering stuff as much anymore. And so this is who I am now. I think I want to hear how you deal with the feelings around that, if you're awesome. Or maybe it's just me who has a lot of feelings.

Super soco

No, I think about it all the time. It's a very good question. I don't know if I have the answer for yes, but I probably couldn't produce any answers and we'll be good advice.

Y

Let's find out together.

Super soco

Yes. It's like a balancing act, right? Because, on the one hand, the combination of things that you do or that I do or that anyone does because everyone has a combination of things that they like to do or are good at. That combination of things makes you who you are, right? That's what makes you unique. So this has to be something you lead with. But on the other hand, something I've been struggling with, actually, is understanding. And I've been thinking about this a lot recently as I've been studying pop music artists. And the more you try to attract people, attract people into your world, grow your audience, grow your fan base, whatever that terminology is for whatever industry you're in, I mean, especially these days, people are so flooded with , we have so much to stimulate us, media and content and all, as a complicated narrative can be very interesting for someone to delve deep into, but it's not always a good entry point. And if you introduce yourself in a way like, hey, what do you do? And I'm like, well, I don't even know how to answer that question because I do so many things.

Super soco

It's like someone's attention has already disappeared. When you finally figure out your answer to that question, you'll need to find a way to dry out the terminal. You can call it branding, you can call it your personal narrative, whatever. Find a way to get to the point quickly and get something accessible to people. And sometimes that means simplifying. And I think that's something that I really struggled with because, like, I do so many things that I want to tell you about all of them.

Y

Yes, 100% yes.

Super soco

And it's also sometimes unfortunate, but I think it's also a matter of human nature, where for whatever reason, whether it's logical or not, a lot of people are sometimes trained to think that if somebody's doing two things, maybe they're doing them. 🇧🇷 OK, but they're not doing very well. Because if you're doing something cool, you'd be doing everything right. And there is also a particular art. There's this ideal persona of this genius artist who almost sucks at everything because he's so good at art, which I think is a load of bullshit. But that realization is out there. And so, sometimes it can hurt. I'm not saying I like it, but I've found that it can hurt sometimes. In fact, if I say, hey, listen to my song. It's a really good song. I think you'll really like it. And I'm also a product manager at Tech. Sometimes it works, but for a lot of people it's like, I don't know. So this weird balancing thing, I think there's a way to have the best of both worlds. And I've been looking at my body of work and thinking, when did I feel like I was doing it right?

Super soco

Sometimes I felt like I was doing it better than others. And one time, I felt like I was doing really well, the first music video I made was a song called Cheese. And I wrote this song, actually, about all the different hats I wear. And one verse was about hats, and one verse was about Broadway. And one verse was about rapping. And my sister actually directed this video. And in the video, we did everything and just sang, danced, cheered, dressed up, acted, the whole thing. And we really lean into that. And that I'm really proud of that work for multiples because I think it stands out. I am very demanding with the quality of my work. And there are some things I like. I wasn't very happy about it. I'm like, I brought this on the mat. That's like, I'm really proud. And I think the key was a multimedia art piece. There was music, there was image, there was dancing, there was animation on top. And figuring out how to find a medium can convey a complicated message, but in a very accessible way.

Super soco

I've been toying with that thought recently. It's like, okay, how do I find the right vehicle to deliver this complicated message?

Y

Yes, I love it. That's a good way to approach it. And I saw that video clip. That was my first introduction to your work.

Super soco

Oh, that's good.

Y

I think your sister mentioned it, and I think we even connected to it in the episode we did with her. We'll also put up the show notes.

Super soco

Yes, that was his directorial debut.

Y

And he added, it was a lot of fun. It was so funny. Such a fun video, such a fun song. Everything is wonderful. I'm curious, like, about this idea of ​​the complex nature of humans. Right. But from work, what you said about complexity is what makes you who you are. I'm curious to know if you speak even more directly about the product of your work, your body of work, and how do you think about the meaning of the words using the words that are in your vernacular, i.e. call it legacy, purpose? I'm not sure, but I'm curious how you think about it when it comes to the work you're doing now and the work you've done in the past.

Super soco

Yes. So, since I was a kid, I always wanted to help save the world. It's super cheesy. But when I was a kid, I was into comic books, superheroes, video games, fantasy, science fiction. I lived in these worlds where it was like, that's where my head was on good people save the world. And so I stayed.

Y

When it's bigger.

Super soco

I want to be one of those good people who help save the world. That's where my various types of professional interests developed over time. It's more or less like this, what can I do to contribute to some cause or some goal that I think is good not only for me, but also for other people? When I first transitioned into musical theater, I had this kind of guilt in the back of my head because I thought, I would leave this job where the straight line is so obvious. I'm helping protect data to make the world safer or operate more efficiently. Right. And it's, to a large extent, that thing that's okay. This is, like, for a good cause.

Super soco

I'm like, now I want to sing and dance because I want to

Y

Sing and dance for the bad guys.

Super soco

I don't know. I just said that in the back of my mind for a while. And then when I discovered songwriting and how much I loved it, which I really think gave me the ability to reconcile that, like, saving the world, as something that's built into my DNA. I couldn't change that if I tried with art that's when I started. Well, at first it was kind of selfish where I was, I just have things I need to say that I never told myself, and I feel like sharing them with other people. And I think initially, maybe it was like a goal that originated within you. And when I started doing that, I started to see the impact that a live performance, song or video could have on people in my audience and the kind of message I would get afterwards. I remember the first time I did a live show. It was in Portland, Maine, when I was on tour, and it was the first time I had played a show where there were people in the audience.

Super soco

So I had never met anyone before who knew all the lyrics to my songs, and they were, like, singing and singing. Talk to me later. And there was this mixed-race Filipino guy who said, I'm the only Filipino in Portland, Maine, and he said, I love his music.

Y

I'm lovin 'it.

Super soco

And we, like, talking. It's just, like, all these kinds of stories. I guess going back to what I mentioned at the beginning, when you were like, how do you describe what you do? And I think it's important to describe what I'm doing and also why I'm doing it. And telling a story of a place where I felt underrepresented many times in my life and telling that story and helping to energize and make this downtrodden pop music and connect with people through that. It's been like, oh, this is making a positive difference. And not only that, but it's actually a more unique way of making a difference where I was good at managing technology products and I probably could have continued doing that, but there were other people who could have done what I was doing. 🇧🇷 And I think about that frame of mind where it's like, what's the one thing that you can bring to this? Once I started thinking about it, it became a little clearer that I needed to keep nurturing this musical project and see how much impact I can have.

Y

I love it. Yes. It also makes a lot of sense that you are that much closer to your impact. Right. You're onstage and people are there, or you get emails that you hear, at least at the height of those moments. Those are the really rich moments. Right. When you hear from people how you are impacting them. Well, when you're doing tech for government agencies, you'll never know. I mean, maybe you know, yes, we've stopped this attacking hacker, whatever it is, but it's such a different recipe, I think you're so much further away from the difference you're making. And it also makes sense to me from that point of view.

Super soco

Sim.

Y

It's really great. Yes. I'm curious, how do you think about the creative process? I always enjoy listening to creative artists and musicians. Where do you start when it comes to creating new work?

Super soco

Yes. For me, it always starts with, like, what's your inspiration? Right. That's a tough question. Where do you buy inspiration? And I go through modes where I'm producing a lot, and then I go through modes where I'm consuming a lot, and I try not to mix those two modes together because if I need inspiration, that's where I'm going to consume music, movies, TV, right. There will be, like, these months where I'm, like, swallowing all this stuff and just letting all the reactions in my head mix together and then hoping that a spark of inspiration will flow from that or just hanging out and talking to people. Because a lot of the inspiration for my songs comes from conversations I have with friends or sometimes even people I don't know. Well, just these human-to-human interactions that I'll reflect on later and say, oh, I feel like there's a story to tell here. There is a song to tell here.

Sim.

Super soco

Daily a lot. I register like a maniac. I write. I fill pages constantly. Like every hour I'm throwing things in the Diary. So this is a useful way to try and buy something in the universe that inspires you. And then from there, it's like, I'm pretty methodical when it comes to, like, creation. When I'm in create mode, it's like, okay, let's find out if it's a song. I usually try to start with the beats or at least a melody. If there's a melody in my head, put it in a voice note. I already have a network of collaborators. I'm like, hey, I have this song idea. Can we turn this into a rhythm? I found good communities to discover instrumental tracks or interact with producers. And then when I started writing, I really like the early stages of writing a song with just me and figuring out, OK, what's the top line like, like the melody, the lyrics, the chorus, some of the verses, some ideas that go into the verses I really like being in motion, I think, because maybe because I was a dancer, I think when I'm sitting down, it's hard to write words, creative words for a song.

Super soco

So, walking or driving, I drove from New York to Arizona last month and wrote four songs while driving. I like to use voice notes on my phone. So yeah, there are many, many stages, of course, to creating a song and even more so when you say, okay, let's create a music video and all that. But yeah, I try to be very deliberate about what's right, I'm going to switch from consuming mode to consuming production mode and I try not to mix that up too much because when I'm creating I don't really want to be consuming too much because I don't want to end up unconsciously copying something someone else did and I want to keep the focus anyway.

Y

Yeah, I love that it's a great way to answer that question. But changing the metaphor, I think it's very useful. It also takes a different mindset to just catch it instead of producing it, which is great. What are you creating right now? Maybe you can answer that today. You can answer that, perhaps. What's your next big release? Or I don't know, but what are you doing now? What's happening?

Super soco

Yes. So at this point I would describe it as being in the final stages or final pages of the first chapter of Super Smack. So, the first chapter of Super Smack talked about my origins and my roots. And I was really inspired by video games, actually. You may have seen a picture of me in this red and blue jacket. And the reason why I did that was because I was inspired when I was in that consumption phase by all these rappers and MCs and pop artists that I really looked up to and I reflected on the fact that a lot of their work, especially their early work, is reflecting in its roots. So I thought, what's my version of this? What is my way of reflecting on my own roots? And then I had two EPS. One called me red, the other called me blue. And now I'm releasing a double EP with some bonus tracks that tie those things together. The red side is like a very lively and energetic sunlight, leading to the beach type of music. And then the blue side is like an evening walk, a hike, a sunrise run, a deep study session, or a writing session.

Super soco

Sort of like putting those two things together.

Y

Cold.

Super soco

So this is my first chapter. The next chapter is I discovered a lot of things and I'm ready to talk about some of them. I'm still playing around with something I'm not ready to talk about yet.

Y

Totally.

Super soco

But what I can tell you is that it's going to be even more multidisciplinary and multimedia than anything I've done before. So going back to what I thought worked well with that chosen music video and just amplifying it and raising the production value, the stakes, the creative input that goes into it, I realized that even within the art. Right. We were talking about specialization versus being this hybrid. Even within art, I've realized that I've specialized a lot, and I want to open up and broaden that now, while I was very focused on being a musical artist. So like the quality of the lyrics, the production, the sound and how it all sounds. And I'm glad I did. But now I'm at a point where I danced before I sang. And I haven't been dancing a lot because I'm so focused on making music. And now I'm ready to really bring these two together. So I've been doing a lot of work and content and really formulating my live performances. How can I bring these things together and make Super Smack a multifaceted experience?

Super soco

So yes, in short, dance, there will be a lot of dancing in 2022, I guarantee it.

Y

Well, I can't wait to see it come to fruition, wherever that takes you. It sounds like it's going to be really engaging and multi-dimensional, which is great for people listening. And a lot of people press play on this podcast because they're thinking about how to do more, how to get more meaning, more purpose, how to realize that maybe they're thinking about a career change. Perhaps they are trying to decide if they want to make a career change and weighing the pros and cons. And a lot of times people just feel stuck where they are and don't know what to do next. I'm curious to know if you have any advice. People are stuck trying to figure it out. Space type.

Super soco

Yes. Face. OK. I've been thinking about this a lot. I have a metaphor. I'll give it a try, but I haven't shared it with anyone else yet.

Y

Workshop. We will teach live here.

Super soco

Living something that was useful to me and talking to other people who walked similar paths. I think you always want to be a planet or a spaceship. And I'll describe that a little bit more. I realized that for most of my life I was a spaceship, how do I explore the Galaxy? And, like, let me try this right here. Let me learn about it. I will fly here. I will explore and that can be very rewarding. Now I'm at a point in my life where I've just left New York City as one of the entertainment meccas to come to Phoenix, Arizona. People say, why? And I'm like, why not? I'm ready to stay here in this space and be the planet that people come to now. I'm ready to be more grounded and just try to entice things to come to me instead of exploring so much other places. And I think it's nice to be able to make those kind of changes that are equally deliberate, I'm going to go into planet mode or I'm going to go into spaceship mode. As long as you're doing one of these, I think it's probably good to have your mindset fully committed to one of these things.

Super soco

What you don't want to be is something like something in between where you probably are, I don't know what the metaphor is here. Like a piece of space junk, like floating aimlessly. You don't want that. Like, so you're neither. You want to have the engine or you want to have the gravity.

Y

Yes. I love that. The engine against gravity. Any one of them is a force. Yeah, I think it's a great metaphor. It really resonates with me. I think of you through different stages of my life. Fits a lot. So go for it.

Super soco

I think it works, I'll keep it

Y

I love it. I love it. It's been so much fun connecting and I'm a huge fan of everything you're doing. Really excited to see where this journey takes you. Friends, I want to connect with you more. Is there a specific action step you'd like to invite them to?

Super soco

Okay, first of all contact me, I think the best and most immediate place to interact with me is Spotify, Instagram and YouTube. I just started my TikTok and I'm really excited about it. So you can find me on all platforms. If you only look for Super Smack, you'll find me.

Y

I'm lovin 'it.

Super soco

I have new music coming out, next week actually, and then I'll release new music every four weeks. So there will always be something new and fresh to come in that I'll release next week. I'm really excited about it. Unlike anything I've ever done. I'm thrilled. So yes, just search for Super Snack on those platforms. And if you want DM about anything. I'm usually very good at getting back to people and I love talking to them.

Y

I love it. Great. I'll also make sure to put links in the show notes so people can click through and listen to the tracks you're putting out. Super excited to move on.

Super soco

Yes, I also have a website that brings all these things together. Which is probably easier to remember. Perfect supersmackpop.com.

Y

I love it. I love it. Well this has been just wonderful. Thank you very much for the time and the connection. It's been a lot of fun. Thanks for being here. Impressive.

Super soco

Thanks. y.

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